ait's the "new" flu, i'm telling ya'

 New word from the CDC .... over that "flue" that everyone was so scared about in 2020 ... tha one that came from overseas .... that one that if I mention it, I'm likely to get kicked off ...

CURRENTLY, it is recommended that when you test positive, you ISOLATE for 5 days .... a,k.a, quarentine, although I guess that implies a hospital stay and they don't want that either ...

NEW GUIDELINES (under discussion) is that instead of isolation you simply isolate once fever free (withut fever reducer) for 24 hours

Yup ... so its like the Swine Flu was .... in the 70s they kept trying to encourage people to get the new flu shot but no one was going .... so they began to talk about this "new" type of flu.  Well, there were still just enough people around who remembered their parents/grandparents (some of us had parents who started having kids in the 40s and didn't stop until the 70s) ... and then there were still people around who actually survived the SPanish Flu ... yes, there were survivors.

But this new flu was made to sund just as bad ... only problem was, the pork industry took a huge hit!!  Bacon was good, but it wasn't used to flavor everything like it is these days ... bacon was - well -bacon ... but people thought that if they ate ANY prok products they were going to catch it ... stupid really, but no different than the reaction to what Mr. Trump dubbed the "Chinese Flu" (he was trying to get a catchy name like the Spanich Flu, but he underesimated the supidity of people).

So NOW ... the CDC will simply be confirming what people like me have thought all along ... that since the medical name of the .... um ... c19 flu ... hope that works .. is SARS ...

Did you know that???  
You do if you've read any of my past posts, I've said it before

SARS is the medical classification for "Flu" ... the Bird Flu is a SARS deisease, as is this "new" one.

I have not looked up what SARS actually stands for ... but in my mind it equals FLU.

But just wanted to update everybody ...

So while everyone complains about Mr. Trump starting the Lock-Down ... remember, it started along the West Coast first - even though the governor of CA ignored it, Rep. Nancy Pelosi ignored it, Hollywood ignored it big time!!

I guess ... they didn't really have to after all.

so ... FL and SD were right after all.

ITS ALMOST LIKE ITS ... UM ... WINTER!!!!!

 So the CDC is putting out warnings again for "Respitory Illness"

There has been an uptick in hospitalizations/ER trips for coughs & fever ... but they do not break it down into how many of these were simply people panicking after the C-19 lockdown ... or if these were actual cases of the Big 3 issues they say we should look out for.

C-19 ... while there are a MULTITUDE of varients ou there, you never know which you might get ... if you get it ... when the hoopla was going on, I found that the death rate from the disease was less than 1% of the US population.  And, yes, my family did get hit - my husband and my youngest daughter caught it.  She had more of the "cold" type symptoms (nasally stuff) while hubby had more of the "flu" type symptoms (out both ends) ... but both had the yucky food taste symptom.

Flu - Still a "crap shoot" (pardon the pun) as to which strain will hit.  Since so many doses have to be prepared, hey have to GUESS if the strain will be Flu A, B, or C ... btw, "Swine Flu" or H1N1 is a varient of Flu A - it got to the point where many states (mine included) simply called ALL Flu A cases "Swine Flu" and reported those numbers, very little lab work went on to designate which were/weren't actually Swine Flu.  I remember when they first started worrying about this in the 70's -- clearly they knew it wasn't going to be too bad.

RSV - many people have never heard of this before ... because it has been faily UNcommon .... usually it hit the very young or those with underlying conditions.  One of my nieces caught this shrtly after being sent home after being born. It was described as bacsically being a bad cold but neither pnuemonia nor bronchitis ... It can be deadly for those with poor lung development.  But why has it suddenly seen such an UPRISE in contangibility? Now that's the question that needs to be answered.  I've got my ideas, but I have no proof.

So ... this winter when every one is abou to catch COLDS, COUGHS, SORE THROATS, ETC. please

DO NOT

PANIC!!!

Chances are - its will simply run its course - if you have a concern, wait and see your regular physician unless you are having an obvious emergency -- lets not plug ERs and/or thow off the statistics.

NatGeo Preppers Facts

(better late than never)

Episode 8
School buses can support 1 1/2 times their weight - they cost less than $300 second hand

Any shower will help with the removal of radiated particles - experts recommend removing all clothing and washing off right away if you are exposed

The US Army recommends that decontamination showers release water at a minimum pressure of 60 psi, about the same as a fire hose

After the disaster at Fukushima Nuclear Plant, some retailers saw the sales of radiation devices increase by as much as 1500%

The worlds largest shelter in Sonnenberg, Switzerland can handle 20,000 people

A 1.4 megaton bomb detonated 250 miles above Kansas would destroy most of the electronics in the United States (ginger adds: and many parts of Canada as well)

Ham radios work only on Radio waves that occur NATURALLY and work independently from "the grid" (it can run off batteries which are charged via solar chargers)

"Peak Oil" = eventual decline in the Oil Reserves

The United States consumes 20 MILLION barrels of oil A DAY (ginger says: that sounds a bit high - I have heard other estimates that have it down to "only" 2 million barrels and as high as 50 million barrels, you would think it would be easier to find this kind of information)

GLOBAL demand for oil is projected to grow to 125% of current levels by 2030 (ginger notes: they do not say if this is taking into consideration the developing countries which have begun to "boom" or if it is just current levels for the major 8-16 countries consuming the most now)

86% of Americans commute to work by car (ginger notes: no stats given for how many of this number are part of a car POOL situation - just that they use a Car to get to where they are going... Note2 at end)

A hot tub, which holds 450 gallons of water, will hydrate a family of three for about 8 months (once properly filtered)

80% of the ingredients in American pharmacy drugs comes from overseas

Most of the antibiotics now produced in the world are used on farm animals (many Preppers will get their antibiotic supplies from animal sources such as online pet pharmacies or pet stores - they are just sold under a different name) NOTE3

M35 military truck: can carry 5,000 lbs of cargo off-road/10,000 on-road; it runs on nearly any liquid fuel (diesel, gasoline, kerosene, jet fuel, used motor oil - even that taken straight from other vehicles and not strained, etc)

According to a recent study, 28% of Americans say they can "bug out" in 30-59 minutes

N95 face masks filter out 95% of air particles (these are not the blue paper masks you see during flu season, they are deep blue)

When fitted PROPERLY N95 masks are 75% effective against flu germs

some glass manufacturers are making "one way" bullet-proof glass - dubbed Ballistic glass - allowing for return fire at the exterior threat (ginger asks: but wouldn't returning fire then destroy the glass leaving you vulnerable to the enemies return fire?) NOTE 1

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NOTE1: even though this was the last story I felt it was worth putting first. In the recent Swine Flu/H1N1 scare in the US and around the world - it MUST be noted that they only tested for the actual H1N1 virus in flu cases which required hospital treatment, otherwise ANY flu which tested positive for TYPE-A flu was counted into the CDCs numbers of Swine Flu cases, even those NOT caused by the Swine Flu specific virus ... It never reached "pandemic" levels as predicted either

NOTE2: because the statistic mentioned did not mention car pooling, you have to wonder if the question asked was simply "do you use a car?" or if it was "do you use public transportation?" ... On the 2010 census it simply asked what the distance was between your residence and where you worked, which makes you wonder if they didn't make assumptions based on those answers.
There is also the issue of "car pooling" - if people were asked "do you car pool?" and they said yes, did it then ask for the number of people in that pool? I mean if the answer was "4" then they then take four people pooled and say " there's one vehicle" OR (and I think MORE likely) did they them count each answer individually such that if they interviewed everyone in the same carpool they said that was 16 car passengers instead of just the four that they really were ... Remember people, stats can be made to LIE to any result the study wants it to (often in favor of those who paid for the study)

NOTE3: animal antibiotics -- the Prepper in the show uses fish antibiotics, but they do not say if you have a fish allergy (now ranked in the top 5 of food allergies nationwide) if you should AVOID such antibiotics for fear of an allergic reaction

Presidential Grade

Bio-Attack: F

Obama Adm not done enough to prevent and attack in a report by a bipartisan committee.

But it also chastized the three previous adm (Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2) for simularly not taking it serious enough and being too slow at implimenting procedures to defend.

They went on to predict a bio-attack by the end of 2013 (most likely the second half)

They based it also on the lack of stockpiled antidotes, and the way that the H1N1 virus situation was handled ... in fact the Vice-Chair of the WMD commision (Jim Talent) said that the CDC can't give anyone updated numbers on current cases or outbreaks because they had no real way to measure it. (see previous posts for H1N1 statistic issues, key words H1N1, Swine Flu, or Illness)

another problems was that there was no real, is no real, way to effectively distribute the meds even if they had them ... again look to the Swine Flu -- you never knew who was going to get it when or who was going to be allowed to get the actual shot when there was meds there.

Does this make us Flying Pig Farmers?

My son - the one who just went thru major eye surgery - had a fever of 101F on Sunday ... we got him into the dr** who wrote him out a prescript 'just in case' it was strep event though the test was negative - and he does have a 'streppy' cough ... didn't blame her ...

Yesterday the fever was just about gone ... it was like 99F ... and I thought for sure he was going to be able to go back to school today - antibiotics the dr gave him. And he was acting fine...

This morning -- 4am -- he is sick as a dog. Fever is back up to 103.3F under the arm (that's 104.3F normal) -- HOLY CRAP!!! There's no way whatever it was was getting touched by the antibiotic ... and it couldn't be the flu - temps with the flu don't get over 102F, that's what they told me last year ....

then to top it all off, he looked at himself in the mirror (he has an obsession with the new eye color) and noticed that there is blood pooled up under his eye lid! Apparently while getting sick, he popped a blood vessel ... it looked nasty, but there was a call to the eye dr just to be sure (they said to give it 4 hours and see, so I won't be feeling any relief until about 3 this afternoon)

So off he goes to the dr's office again. Hubby took a couple of hours off work to take him down and sit since they squeezed him in & double/triple booked ... well ... you got a kid sitthing there coughing up a storm, holding a bucket and having a hard time walking because he is weak kneed from his high fever -- BOOM -- hardly any wait ....

Good News: no more antibiotic, & he won't have to get the Swine Flu shot
Bad News: He tested positive for Influenza A ... though they can't say for sure, they treat all Flu A as Swine Flu.

Great - now there are just 4 others that need to go thru it in the house ... on the up side - dr said if anyone else starts to show signs we can just call the office and they will call in the prescription for us, no need to be seen.

Sigh -- hubby is supposed to go to Boston this weekend for work .... he is considering cancelling it in case I get sick too ... I'm thinking he will get hit with it before I do.

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NOTE: the dr on call was the one dr we refuse to see at the regular clinic. She is the one who twisted my daughter's ankle every which way to see if it was broken even though we had an Xray that showed a break. "well she's not screaming or pulling away" - yeah, ignore the fingernails dug into the exam table, the tears rolling down her face, and the lip she is trying to bite off trying to keep from yelling - so it doesn't really surprise me that she totally missed giving a flu test, was however amazed she gave a prescript 'just in case'

Swine Flu 101

Okay so the CDC is reporting more than 21,000 cases of Swine Flu on college campuses ... most of which I guess are at the University of Illinios (Fox reports they get 30 new cases a day).

Note: to re-iderate, H1N1 tests the same as type A I've been told by someone in the field of testing for the flu which is why the cases are so high ... so the positives they are getting may not be the actual H1N1 virus only a more extensive (ie expensive) test is req to tell, but since most ins. companies won't pay for it they just test for type A.

but here's what I love:

Fox went on to report what action the UofI is handling it ....

The kids get sent to the med center there ... if they have a cough they get a mask and are sent into a seperate area they are calling a "Cough Clinic" ... students who get a positive on their flu test get a 'Hydration Packet' and are sent away until someone can come get them off campus or they can get them admitted in their own room.

So what's in this "Hydration Packet" you may ask?
2 cans each Sprite & Gatorade
2 cans Campbell's soup
Tea bags
Hand sanitizers
a travel sized packet of Kleenex (they hold all of 8 tissue, btw)
a disposable themometer - just one

Okay - who amongst them has figured this packet out? I'm sorry but if you have the flu you are not going to be able to last on that. I wonder how many students there are living away from home ... how many don't have relatives close by to come get them ... how many of them have insurance that will pay for that room?

You thing that if the Health Care bill passes it will cover a stay for the flu?? Oh heck no ... you will be lucky if you don't get sent home the same day as having a baby or after major surgery - much less be able to stay there for Swine Flu.

Thank goodness for private care

Swine Flu Madness

I nearly missed this this morning - luckily I recorded it for a different reason .... but ...

The Common Wealth of Mass has inacted a law - or rather the State House & Senate have passed a bill which is waiting for signature by the governor -- which gives police the right to go into your home without a warrent and pull you and your kids out and force them to get the shots.

Well they can forcefully give the kids the shots -- since they can't force the adults to do it, what they will do is those who refuse will be incarcerated without warrent, trial, sentencing, and without appeal.

All it needs is a signature and in order to inact it -- the governor just needs to declare a state of emergency. And if you have ever watched the news you know that some of those governor's ask for national aid when they get just a few inches of snow!!

I know, you are thinking 'unconstitutional' ... everyone is worried about this -- but no one is forcing the schools to close when there is a break out, because then they would lose public funding! They have to by law in many states be open a minimal amount of days - maybe its federal law - and if they aren't open for that amount of time, the school system gets docked that money and/or fined!

Besides, lets remember that the Courts will decide if its constitutional ... and many of those judges are appointed by the person/party in power.

Swine Flu 101

Found this info on the web and thought I'd share since they are predicting that once school begins, things are really going to 'pop' in the US.

Symptoms:

• fever (over 101*F)
• sore throat
• runny or stuffy nose
• body aches
• headache
• chills and fatigue

Some people with the virus have reported:

• diarrhea
• vomiting
• ear aches

Because the Swine flu mimicks the regular flu, they encourage people to go to the doctor to have the test performed to determine if you have regular flu or swine fludi

Do not go to the emergency room unless there is something seriously wrong - see your regular dr for the test .... if you do have Swine Flu, your compromised immune system can pick up many other - more dangerous - viruses/bacteria. Keep the Emergency Room for emergencies.

Contagiene:
it is spread not only thru coughing & sneezing but also thru touch - the virus lives a long time on objects ... so touching an object and then touching any mucus area of your body can infect you (yes, spit is a type of mucus, kind of)

Face masks can actually help to spread the flu, since they become moist with use they become regular petri dishes

you can NOT get Swine Flu from eating pork products -- so enjoy those chops and eat that bacon, its fine!

Isolation:
after being diagnosed, meds will be given
it is recommended that you stay home until all meds are finished
but the CDC officially says you can return to work 24 hours AFTER the fever breaks (this means if the fever breaks at 11pm, don't go to work the next day - you need to wait until the day after that)

the government is urging schools not to shut down during outbreaks, but children should stay home. In Argentina, the only country with more cases/deaths than the US, they will be shutting down the schools for 2 weeks after a case is found ... the US has developed a 'wait and see' attitude about it - if it works in Argentina, we may adopt it here, otherwise the CDC says to treat it like you would if any other flu outbreak in the school [ginger says: bolony - I'm pulling my kid out]

Preventatives:

Wash, wash, wash. Wash under warm water with soap for at least 20 seconds - about two rounds of either the "ABC"s or "Happy Birthday To You" {in the daycare we taught the kids to wash all the way to their wrists and in the webbing of their fingers - bar soap cleans better than liquid, but spreads more germs because it exposes the moist bar to the air more, keep the bar soap for home and get a holder that lifts the bar up so it will dry faster}

Use hand sanitizers ONLY if there is no water available, over use can lessen their effectiveness {ginger says: since these are generally alcohol based, you may wish to reframe from eating until you can get to a water source to wash the sanitizer off under running water}


Basically I think they are saying - we're all screwed. They want us to treat this just like any other time we deal with the flu, but its a lot more deadly -- and it is hitting the usual "safe" groups the worst.

Health Care - get it under control

From Plague to Leprosy: 7 Diseases We'd Forgotten About - ABC News

Instead of running out and spending money on health care, I think the government would be doing more with the money to find new cures for these diseases which have poked their heads back up ...

1. Plague (the Pnuemonic & Bubonic types - the bubonic type has been used as instant-face-lifts for years now .... oops!)


2. Flu (both the Spanish & Swine flu are making a comeback)


3. Polio


4. Lepersi


5. TB


6. Chagas Disease (spread by insects - then a person itchs and lets the infection into their system)


7. Hook Worms (remember your mother yelling at you for going bare foot?)

They feel part of the problem is the growing lower class, since it seems like those of lower SES seem to get it the worse ... but these diseases are growing at such a rate that this may not be the case for much longer.

Time to pull out the old bits of wisdom - shoes when there is an 'R' in the month and definately in public, no spitting on the streets, cutting back on water fountains (yes they are a haven for germs), STAY HOME WHEN YOUR SICK, you know, those things.

I'm betting the Lysol people are pretty happy - they will be selling tons of the stuff soon enough.

Litigical society at its "best" ...

Widow of First New York City Man to Die From H1N1 Flu Plans to Sue City for $40 Million:

"Wiener was the assistant principal of Intermediate School 236 in Hollis in the New York borough of Queens. The school was one of several city schools to be shuttered after the illness afflicted students and staff members.

In a notice of claim filed on Tuesday, Wiener's widow, Bonnie Wiener, accused the city of failing to adequately control the H1N1 outbreak and failing to inform Wiener that he had come in contact with individuals who tested positive for the H1N1 flu."

Somebody explain how its the city's fault that this guy got the flu? I'm not going to say that she doesn't have a case - because i don't know all the wherefore's and as-to's .... but how can you blame the city because the guy got hit by a pandemic?

I mean - he was in a position where personale are exposed to diseases all the time ... and it is part of the risk of the job ... and its not like they hadn't had warning that it could happen.

I just don't see where she has a case ... and if she wins - it will open a whole kettle of fish!

My plans? First reported case of swine flu will have my kids staying at home, and I'm afraid of the shot - I think they are pushing thru these shots too fast these days. I'm afraid they haven't done a thorough enough research study on it all.

I even heard that the shots we got from the last mass hysteria aren't even good anymore ... I just hope the school system doesn't require it, then i don't know what I'll do.

President suffering from Foot-In-Mouth Disease

gee its a good thing he is taking being President and the importance of his words so 'seriously' ... I remember when President GW Bush would mess up on a word, stumble during a speech people were all over it saying how 'dumb' he was, what an 'embarrassment' it was when he talked -- well where are those same people

So lets see .... so far this week there have been two huge ones (I'm sure there will be more):

The President has accused doctors of ordering unnecessary procedures just to make a buck his quote was ...

" .... so if their looking, and you come in, and you have a bad sore throat or your child has a bad sore throat, or has repeated sore throats -- the doctor may look at the reimbursement system and say to himself 'you know what, I make more money if I take this kids tonsils out' -- now that may be the right thing to do, but I'd rather have the doctor making those decisions based on whether you really need your kid's tonsils out or whether it might make more sense to just to change -- maybe they have allergies, maybe they have something else that would make a difference ... "

hmmm, where was the mass media - network media - outrage and rips at the President over that one??? AND I kept out all the stammering he was doing .... I don't mean to imply that he should be picked on for his stammering, but Bush sure was when he did it -- could you imagine the hay day that the media would have had if Sarah Palin had said something like this?? OMGs!!!!

I know that there could be a few drs that will do that ... but the majority of drs don't even know what the reimbursement programs are -- the billing department is totally separate. The dr may know what circumstances would likely be covered by insurance companies - but not the billing part of it.

Then there's the whole Gates vs. Police thing ... where the President came out and said that the police 'acted stupidly' - and couldn't see where that might get him in just a bit of trouble (see my previous post for the exact quote) ... so now he has tried to back track it - after the tapes & police report were released which kind of collaborate what the officer was saying.

In one of the dispatch calls where the officer is asking that campus police still come out, you can hear the professor in the background speaking loudly - you can't hear what he's saying but you can tell that it is not in a regular tone of voice. The police report released states that the professor followed the officer onto his porch and that he was verbally abusive to the cops(although it has been pointed out that the reporting-officer wrote down that the 911-caller said it was an A-Amer male entering the home, when she hadn't mentioned race until pushed by the dispatcher for a description ... but that should dismiss his entire report) ...

So now the President is asking both Gates & off. Crowley to the WH to 'settle it' over -- excuse me?? I thought this man was a lawyer? He knows you aren't supposed to get these two in the same room once charges have been made -- its too late now ... Gates was booked, photographed (oh, that's another post), and in the system - it will be up to the court systems now as to what happens to him, and he will more than likely just have a 'slap on the wrist' either comm. service, fine or (more than likely) a stern talking to ... and I have to tell you, I hope the judge gives him an ear full about cooperating with the police - if he had just followed the directions of the officer it would have been over in about 5 minutes, after all Officer Crowley had said that when he saw that the man was a professor from the university he called for the campus police.

But the part that cracks me up is the non-apology that he offered ...

" ... in my unfortunate choice of words I gave the impression that I was maligning the Cambridge police dept or Sgt Crowley, specifically [ginger says: Noooooo, sounded like you supported them all along and were totally unbiased] - and I could have calibrated those words differently, and I told this to Sgt Crowley - I continue to believed, based on what I've heard, that there was an over-reaction in pulling Prof. Gates out of his home to the station. I also continue to believe, based on what I heard, that Prof. Gates probably over-reacted as well."

WHAT?? How come it is that the officer definitely over-reacted in his mind and the Professor probably over-reacted? What is all that? he kept saying 'based on what I heard' ... from whom? media, Gates, Crowley, or the official records ... maybe from the by-standers who saw it all - and apparently had a professional quality camera there - and didn't run off to the rag sheets or news crews to report what happened ... in fact it seems that other than the 911-caller no one has felt it was that big of a deal - and even then the 911-caller only spoke to clear her own name when the news reporters started saying that she claimed it was a black man who was breaking in.

Interesting part of this is -- no one has mentioned, but its in the police report, that this particular home had recently been broken into and the lock didn't work properly - which Gates commented on when Crowley asked if he wanted to give his keys to one of the other officers so that the building could get locked up. SO - his home was broken into once already ... a neighbor saw it being forced into again ... a cop shows up to check it out ... and he's going to give the cop a hard time for doing his job? someone please tell me who over reacted here?
The moment that Gates refused to give the officer his ID he could have been taken into custody ... but the officer gave him several chances to comply ... and even then it wasn't until Gates made the huge scene outside the house that he was taken into custody, and by the sounds of it the officers did everything they could to accommodate his physical condition.

And people think Biden puts his foot in his mouth too much?

Swine flu isn't the issue -- its Foot-in-Mouth Disease that is running rampant in Washington DC!!

If only there was a cure for that.

Parental Mindsets

2 More Die From Swine Flu, Hundreds Sent Home Sick - Infectious Disease - FOXNews.com: "

In New York City, three more schools were shut down Friday where students have been sickened with swine flu symptoms. That brings the number of schools closed in the city to six. A city official says the new schools are in Queens and Brooklyn."

Okay I heard about this this morning and couldn't believe what I was hearing ...

You know those interviews of the southerners who claim they saw something (ufo, tornado, whatever) and you swear they hunted up the most imbred person they could find?? don't worry in MN they try to find the one's with the thickest accent .... well they did the same thing for these NY schools, I swear...

they got this one mother who's daughter was home sick and also suffers from asthma ... well you would think she would be upset that they didn't close the school's sooner to protect her daughter ...

instead this woman is bitching because her kid was sick and now she was going to have to take time off and it was going to interfere with her work!!

wht a piece of work!

Page of importance - kind of

Swine Flu interactive.foxnews.com

this is an 'interactive' map of where the Swine Flu H1N1 virus is at now .... but it doesn't give you any idea where or how close cases are to getting to you.

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The news that ticks me off is the new move by the CDC to allow schools to stay open if they want to if there's a case in staff or students.

The original guidelines were that if there was a suspected case the schools involved (not the whole district needed to shut down until the tests came back -- then if there was a confirmed case the school needed to be shut down from 7-14 days to eliminate the incubation perio and keep the virus from spreading.

I can totally understand the pressure from people who need to have two incomes - and in todays cutbacks even more families need two incomes -- and I can understand that people need to pay their bills and they just can't take 2 weeks off in most cases and that the people who would really be hurt would be the lowest income families .... BUT ....

the interest of public safety needs to come first!!

There is no reason that the government (you know the big interferrers) can't pass some moritorium to make it illegal to fire some one because they need to take time off due to an illness .... or force creditors to allow an extended 'grace period' during a CDC 'confinement' ... etc.

then these people wouldn't have an issue staying home with their kids.

If you have ever had your child go to public school (I don't know maybe its the same in the private schools as well) you will notice that there are quite a few parents who send their kids sick -- don't go first thing in the morning, wait a couple of hours....

this is something I found at the daycare - parents are very good at giving their kids the medicine (tylenol, dimetapp, sinubid, etc) about 1/2 hr before its time for school ... giving it just enough time to kick in ... but wait until it wears off and suddenly you've got a kid who's coughing, sneezing, and miserable with fever.

I underestand the 'why' of it all .... I just can't stand it!

Then there are the businesses who expect their people to be there, even if they are sick. Even at the daycare we were expected to show up for our shift until the director could get a replacement for you .... when I first started they gave the workers a list of names and you were expected to get your own substitute or work...

If you are sick --- STAY HOME!!! Don't infect my husband to brind it to our house ... don't bring it to work an ruin my plans for later in the week because you can't afford to take the time off - neither can I.

CDC -- I strongly urge (like I will have an effect) to CLOSE school where there is a confirmed case ....

Lets not forget the lessons we have learned over the years with other epidemics, just because people can't afford to take the time off ....

Public Safety first!!!

Was Wondering when this would happen

White House issues advisory after Obama Mexico trip - Carol E. Lee and Josh Gerstein - POLITICO.com:

"The individual – an advance security staffer for Energy Secretary Steven Chu –appears to have spread the flu to his wife, son and nephew. All three have tested probable for swine flu, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Thursday.

Gibbs, who did not name the security aide, said he did not work closely with Obama, didn’t fly on Air Force One and is back at work at the Energy Department."

I know that they were saying they thought the delegation was fine because no one showed symptoms after 24 hrs ... I guess they under-estimated how long it took to incubate.

Now that it has hit staffing in DC, you can bet something major will be done -- if it had just stayed in the general public it wouldn't get much more than lip=service. But now that it looks like Obama's kids could be exposed ... you can count on vacinations (at least in DC)

PSA my ass!

Fox sticking with schedule instead of Obama:

"This will be Obama's third prime-time news conference as president, a schedule that has caused some private grumbling among network executives. Carrying a news conference costs the four broadcast networks an estimated $10 million-plus in lost advertising revenue.
Yet with an economy in distress, two wars and now a swine flu outbreak, the pressure on networks to agree to Obama's request as a public service is enormous."

These speeches aren't PSAs they are OVCs ..... Obama Voice Checks.

This man just loves the sound of his own voice!

Has any President given as many speeches as he has?? Did FDR give this many speeches during WW2?

This is what the Saturday morning Presidential address is for - dweeb.

Okay before I say this - let me point out that I am not in any way saying these two people are alike as people - the only person I can think of who liked the sound of his own voice more, the only other person I can think of who gave possibly more speeches than Obama right now is Hitler.

Obama feels that if he talks enough people will ignore everything else that's going on .... and the sad part is for the most part its true. His administration is really good at drawing your attention to one hand while the other picks your pocket.